I have had a look at the Thyestes Chase from Gowran tomorrow as well as the Peter Marsh from Haydock on Saturday.
I have tried to highlight what may be a ‘winning profile’ based on the trends/stats I have uncovered.
As always these are there for you to use as you please, to help in your own analysis, or to to demonstrate why I may end up ‘tipping/advising’ a certain selection.
(My Daily Punt column will look at the big handicap hurdle from Ascot)
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Thursday 21/01/15
GOWRAN – Thyestes Handicap Chase
19 renewals
299 runners, 69 placed horses
Notes:
- In 2006 was upgraded from G2 Handicap to G1 Handicap
- 1 horse down as having ‘no run’, likely no UK form before win. (‘no run 1/10, 3 places)
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‘WINNING PROFILE?’
- Top 9 or Did Not Complete LTO
- Ran within previous 60 days
- 8-31 career runs in total
- 0-10 handicap chase runs
- Top 3 on at least one of previous 5 starts
(we shall see what kind of short-list that will leave)
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TRENDS
Previous Place
- 12/18 Top 9 LTO
- BD: 1/2, 1 place
- Fell: 2/12, 4 places
- PU: 3/29, 4 places
- 10th or worse But completed: 0/41, 6 places…14% runners…9% places
Horse Age
- Not much on age, winners from age 6-12
- 11+: 2/48, 6 places…11% winners…16% runners…7% places
Days Since Run
- 17/18 ran 16-60 days ago
- 17/218, 59 places…94% winners…73% runners…86% places
- 1-15 days: 1/52, 6 places
- 61+ : 0/19, 1 place
Season Runs
- 7+ : 0/23, 7 places
Odds
- 18/19 were 20/1 or shorter SP
- 22/1-40/1: 1/59, 4 places
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OTHER STATS
Miscellaneous 1
Origin of Horse
- GB: 1/18, 3 places
- IRE: 17/255, 63 places
- FR: 1/25, 3 places
Weight (ex J- Clm)
- When Heavy (+ soft to heavy)
- 11-00 + : 1/39, 8 places
- Clear Top in Heavy: 1/7, 3 places
- Clear 2nd to 5th : 0/23, 7 places
Pos Wgts (ex Clm)
- Clear Top Weight: 4/19, 9 places (2 of those in last 5 renewals)
‘The ‘Running’ Characteristics’
H – Run (career)
- 1-7: 0/19, 3 places (1/10 down as having 0, no UK form)
- 32+ : 0/40, 5 places
H- Run (Hncp/Non Hncp)
- 18/19 had 0-10 handicap runs
- 18/198, 51 places…95% winners…66% runners…74% places
- 11+ : 1/101, 18 places
H- Run (Hncp NH Race Type)
- 11+ handicap chase runs: 0/64, 10 places
H-Run (Last Placing)
- 18/18 had placed on at least one of previous 5 starts
- 0/32, 2 places did not
The ‘Winning’ Characteristics
H-Win (Career)
- 8+ : 0/21, 3 places
Miscellaneous 2
Best In Three Runs
- 17/18 Top 4 on at least one of previous 3 starts
- 1/54, 4 places did not
Best In Five Runs
- 18/18 Top 3 on at least one of previous 5 starts
- 0/38, 2 places did not
Class Move
- 15/18 running at same, or up 1 or up 2 classes from last run (grade B to grade A would be a move of 1 class)
- 15/161, 43 places…83% winners..54% runners…62% places
Horses ‘Last Race’ Characteristics
(LR) No. of Runners
- 8 runners or fewer: 2/60, 13 places…11% winners…20% runners…19% places
Track LTO (of interest)
- Leopardstown: 10/134, 32 places
- Chepstow: 2/4, 2 places
- 1 win each: Fairyhouse/Aintree/Thurles/Clonmel/Limerick/Newbury
- Cork: 0/8, 0 places
- Navan: 0/22, 4 places
- Punchestown: 0/23, 4 places
- Naas: 0/11, 4 places
- Tramore: 0/18, 3 places
Trainers (of interest)
- W Mullins: 6/34, 14 places
- 1 win each: Brassil/Martin/Mangan/Brooks/Treacy/Swan/Hughes/Gilligan/Cahill
- Paul Nolan: 0/10. 5 places
- Noel Meade: 0/19, 0 places
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SATURDAY….
3.15 Haydock: Peter March Chase
15 previous renewals since 1997
137 runners, 40 placed horses
1 horse down in HRB as having ‘no run’ – likely to only have had form abroad.
‘WINNING PROFILE’
Not an overly strong set of stats to go on, and not a massive pool of runners. Plenty of pointers but not many ‘killer stats’
Of importance…
- Top 3 at least one of previous 3 starts
- Top 2 at least one of previous 5 starts
- In HEAVY: Top two in weights a negative, those carrying 10-6 or below a positive
- Mark up those running at same distance or dropping max 1f from LTO
- Running at Chepstow (Welsh Nat?) LTO a negative
TRENDS
Previous Place
- Nothing of note.
- 7/14 Top 3 LTO
- 4/14 Fell or PU
Horse Age
- 15/15 Aged 8 or older
- 6+7: 0/17, 4 places
Odds/Market
- Nothing of note. Winners at all prices.
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OTHER STATS
Miscellaneous 1
Origin of Horse
- GB: 8/35, 14 places
- IRE: 6/65, 19 places
- FR: 1/33, 7 places
Weight (excl J-Claim)
Noting much, BUT when ground is HEAVY (7 renewals)….
- 11-7 + : 0/14, 4 places
- 11-8: 0/5, 1 place
- 11-10: 0/8, 2 places
- 10-6 or less: 5/30, 10 places…+50 SP (5/7 winners in heavy)
Pos Wgts (ex Clm) –
In HEAVY…
- Top 2 in weights (including joint weights)
- 0/16, 4 places
‘The ‘Running’ Characteristics’
H-Run (Last Win)
- 14/14 had won at least once in previous 6 starts
- 0/20, 5 places had not (not a killer stat, but interesting)
H-Run (Last Placing)
- 13/14 Had placed at least once in previous 3 starts
- 1/23, 5 places had not…7% winners…17% runners…12.5% places
The ‘Winning’ Characteristics
H-Win (Hcap NH)
- 5+ handicap chase wins: 0/13, 3 places
Miscellaneous 2
Best In Three Runs
- 14/14 Top 3 on at least one of previous 3 starts
- 10/70, 23 places had won at least once…+60 SP
- 0/19, 3 places did not
Best In Five Runs
- 14/14 Top 2 on at least one of previous 5 starts.
- 0/14, 1 place did not
Distance Move
- 12/14 running at same distance or dropping a maximum of 1f from last run
- 12/58, 22 places…+76 SP
- 0/25, 4 places dropped 4f or more from last run
- 1/28, 5 places moving up 1f or more. (winner was moving up 5f)
H-Places (NH Race type)
- 13/15 had placed in 0-7 chases only
- 8+ : 2/39, 9 places
- 0-7: 13/98, 31 places
- 14/15 placed 0-5 times in Handicap Chases
- 6+ : 1/27, 5 places…7% winners..20% runners…12.5% places
Horses ‘Last Race’ Characteristics
(LR) Race Class (inc Irish)
- Class 2: 0/40, 9 places (could just be an anomaly)
- C3/4: 3/17, 3 places
- C1: 11/73, 26 places
(LR) Grp/Grd/Lst
- 11/14 ran in Listed or higher LTO
- ‘non major’ LTO: 3/58, 12 places…21% winners…42% runners…30% places
Track LTO (of interest)
- Wetherby: 6/24, 13 places…+46 SP
- Haydock: 3/15, 5 places
- 1 win each: Newbury/Cheltenham/Lingfield/Ascot/Kempton
- Kelso: 0/4, 0 places
- Aintree: 0/6, 1 place
- Sand: 0/6, 1 place
- Chepstow: 0/18, 4 places
Trainers (of interest)
- Miss V Williams: 2/8, 3 places
- Mrs S Smith: 2/10, 6 places
- 1 win each: A C Whillans/E Williams/D Pipe/D McCain/M Jefferson
- NTD: 0/10, 1 place
- A King: 0/4, 0 places
- P Nicholls: 0/6, 1 place
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5 Responses
Kerry Lee’s runner will want watching if she sends one to Haydock
There will not be any stats for Trainer Form strong enough to indicate a winner
Forget that as a suggestion…nothing in the probables for Saturday’ Peter Marsh Chase….only 1 runner in an earlier race
Reve De Sivola will be hard to beat off 139 if he jumps anything like.
Maybe but is there a reason the horse hasn’t been chasing for years? I’ve tried going through the stats set out above and all roads just about lead to Fingal Bay, grrrr, not what I wanted!!!.
Hmm I see that horse racing Ireland have gowran park down as heavy both courses with “a generally dry forecast”,(via Twitter )had a look at the rain radar on the Irish met office site,looks like there’s a very good chance of rain around the area over night,should take some getting if that’s the case.