Top 10 Alternative Horses To Follow

 

Top 10 alternative Point to Point and Hunter Chase horses from the UK and IRE 2020

 

Introduction

Below you can find 10 alternative ‘under the radar’ (or less obvious) Pointers/Hunters to keep an eye on. This list has been pulled together by a good friend of mine, Alex. He and a couple of others are responsible for leading me astray at last year’s Pardubice meeting! (I recommend a visit) He’s a part time bloodstock agent as well as a Point to Point fanatic. 

I hope you enjoy flicking through these as much as I did. With any luck there’ll be a few decent winners in the months ahead, into next winter jumps season and beyond. 

Over to Alex…

 

Liar’s Dice

This 7-year-old Milan gelding had plenty of experience under rules in Ireland before being purchased to run in the UK point to point scene.

A debut at the tough Alnwick track in December showed he had retained ability where showing up well for a long way before tiring late on to be a well beaten 2nd. He ran at Alnwick again in January running a tremendous race coming 2nd again beaten in a photo. The winner has won well again since.

A switch to rules and to the capable hands of Justin Landy followed. A run without promise at Musselburgh over hurdles resulted in a drop of 3lb in the handicap. Now rated 107 i’d fully expect him to win over a distance of around 3 miles when in a 0-105 handicap.

It could well be that this deep girthed gelding needs a run to be spot on.

 

Absainte

Easy to spot this flashy grey mare and one with a good engine. Regarded as a failure in Ireland but the switch to the UK in the hands of Robin Tate has shown this mare up to be a solid performer.

She has 4 wins and a 2nd from 5 runs in UK points bolting up in quick times more than once.

She has already placed in hunter chases and is surely a certainty to win one ,however her career could be in handicaps as she is rated just 83 over hurdles and 94 over fences. It might well be her hurdles mark is increased to around the same as her chase mark, but she must be considered a ‘good thing’ if running in a good ground handicap off that mark.

 

Ultimate Getaway

This big 6-year-old Getaway gelding showed significant promise in Irish points before his form tailed off. A wind op was required and following that procedure he made his debut in the UK at Alnwick. A heavily backed favourite he resisted the early pace and made ground up approaching 3 out to hit the front. The leader, legless at the time, hung violently off the track taking Ultimate Getaway with him and almost into the farmers wall. Losing all momentum, he eventually got free and was in third place before storming home.

The race has produced multiple winners and this run did not go unnoticed – he was purchased by the Foxtrot Racing syndicate and now is in the capable hands of Fergal O’Brien. He should have enough pace to win a hurdle, but his future is over fences.

 

Getzie

A horse that took 7 runs to win an Irish point will not normally be seen on any horses to follow list. However this Kalanisi gelding has taken a while to get to grips with racing.

He would have possibly won in atrocious conditions at Oldtwon in February but a racing ending slither on landing 2 out put pay to that.

Next time out, again on bad ground, he simply bolted up at Borris House winning with any amount in hand. He then made his hunter chase debut at Downpatrick and didn’t jump with his usual fluency. It could well be that the quicker ground and undulating track didn’t suit.

One to note when on bad ground and a flatter track.

 

Twist About

This twice raced gelding was an eye catcher on both appearances so far in UK points.

Making his debut at Duncombe park in a 2m point to point ” bumper ” he went off an unbacked 10/1 but travelled well behind the leaders. Initially outpaced when the pace quickened, he stayed on strongly up the finishing hill and got up on the line.

He then ran at the twisty Hutton Rudby track on soft ground in a 3m maiden. (Bumpers don’t count) Held up off the pace by the experienced John Dawson he didn’t jump great but on the flat made his ground up. From 2 out he stayed strongly under tender handling and was only beaten just over 6 lengths.

Should this nice young horse go under rules i’d wait until over 2m4f+ and soft ground but could pop up at a good price when conditions suit.

 

Kings Cave

A lovely stamp of a 5-year-old typical of offspring by Court Cave. This gelding had a couple of runs as a 4-year-old in IRE showing slight promise. Purchased for a UK point career he made his debut in awful conditions at Chipley Park in January and ran a great race to come 2nd, the winner has already placed 2nd in a Novice hurdle for Peter Bowen.

He fell early on his second UK run but made it third time lucky at Cothelstone, again on bad ground staying very well and winning going away.

Now in the capable hands of Phil Kirby he should be followed closely when the mud is flying.

 

Handy Headon

A late starter to racing, not making his debut until he was 7 but is quickly making up for lost time. He won his Irish maiden at Tinahely with any amount in hand, but it is his next two races which ended in defeat that really caught the eye. A hunt ‘farmers race’ are often not the places to be looking for ‘horses to follow’ however at Punchestown in February he lined up in a rather hot farmers race which was headed by subsequent Foxhunters flop Rewritetherules.

Handy Headon really put it up to Rewritetherules going down by half a length. He then ran in the same hunter chase as Getzie ( number 7 in the list ). Jumping well throughout he was the only horse in the race to take the winner on and paid the price late on finishing 3rd, beaten 16 lengths. He wont bump into horses like On The Sod very often so should be backed when appearing again.

 

Mr Snuffles

This 8-year-old Mr Dinos chestnut has had a stop start career due to injury, but the fact the owner kept him says it all. The owner has had some good horses – Kruzhlinin and Cloudy too to name a couple.

At the end of 2018 he won his maiden easily before another period on the sidelines followed. 13 months later Mr Snuffles reappeared at Cottenham running well before tiring late on finishing 3rd. That run seems to have put him straight and on Heavy/soft ground he won at Bangor, Chaddesley Corbett and Hutton Rudby easily each time.

Well trained by the vocal Joe O’Shea this horse is showing a lovely blend of speed and stamina but his main attribute is his jumping. I have never seen a horse jump point to point fences so quickly and well, often taking lengths out of his opponents.

A hunter chase campaign surely beckons and can’t go unbacked. Should his injury problems be behind him i expect him to develop into a Foxhunters horse.

 

Caviar D’allen

A horse most people will have heard off, for the wrong reason, as he spent last season running as the wrong horse after a mix up from the owners.

He showed promise under rules for Christian Williams and is now showing his talents. He won his maiden point at Charm Park very easily and then his restricted on testing ground.

Clearly a horse going the right way, with a handicap mark of 98 it would be disappointing if he was not capable of winning off that mark, and up to around 115. The owner does switch his horses from points to rules so your tracker should be updated to add this fella.

 

Knockdrin

A once raced 5 year old gelding he is a big imposing type who has needed time, but that patience looks to be richly rewarded. His only run to date was in early March at Tyrella on good ground and what on paper looked a competitive race. Going off an unfancied 10/1 he was held up wide and mid division of the 16-runner field. Jumping well and showing he travels well, he moved into the race 2 out before tiring late on, eventually beaten around 14 lengths.

This enforced break will have done him the world of good and knowing connections it would be no surprise should he end up at Gordon Elliot’s yard, and we all know what he can do with a horse. There is no doubt this horse should go in all trackers and be followed very closely when he sees the racecourse again.

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Thanks for reading and my thanks to Alex for allowing me to post.

You can follow him on Twitter HERE>>>….  @p2p_alex

Happy Punting,

Josh

 

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  • NO COMMENTS ?????????????????????????????????????
    BLIMEY .. THIS INFO IS LIKE GOLD DUST .. ALL NOTE AND BANKED .. THANKS JOSH & CO 🙂

    best rgds GBster
    (Still locked in his padded cell with his beloved HRB System ….. but now with just 3 months supply of bourbon biscuits left….. things are looking desperate now 🙁 )
    KEEP SAFE AND DON’T LOSE YOUR SENSE OF HUMOUR , THAT IS IF YOU HAD ONE IN THE FIRST PLACE 🙂 ………………. OBVIOUSLY 🙂
    JULY RE-START I RECKON …… Just gonna see what odds betfair have on that 🙂

    George B 17/04/20 12:02 PM Reply


    • Good to hear from you Mr B – glad you’re keeping well! All good here. Yep hopefully a few future winners mentioned above and just the type to go under the radar with the odds compilers, at least until the money comes anyway!
      Josh

      Josh 17/04/20 2:07 PM Reply


  • Always a pleasure and learning curve here Mr W.
    Whilst making a note of these gems .. I suddenly realised i had no “System” in place covering dose dem dare “Hunters” .
    I promptly set about such system and have come with the following over last four years :
    247 bets /86 wins/34.82 win%/ sp p/l 364.42/ plce % 51.42/bfsp £ 753.22 / a/e1.32

    Very encouraging at first look so will try and squeeze it a bit more .. happy days !!!
    bestest rgds,
    gb in his element in lock down ! 🙂

    George B 22/04/20 1:29 PM Reply


    • Hiya GBster, hope you are well. What is the actual system old chum?

      Mark Curtis 22/04/20 4:28 PM Reply


      • HI MC .. Haven’t heard from you in months ?? ….. how are you coping old fruit in these war like conditions bestowed upon us at the moment ?? 🙂 I am just grinding away at the HRB system cogs .. refining and more refining …… as long as we are not back before June 1st .. i should be totally, totally upto date and ready to start winning all that lvely money from dose dem hookie bookie peeps 🙂

        THE HUNTER CHASERS ………. Just a bit of fun but has turned out into a very workable system for me ..me finks . It’s a non handicap hunter chaser system with certain winning trainers / tracks etc etc etc …. but it’s all on my HRB system and i don’t think you are on dat are you ??

        Will obviously share with you when they come up 🙂
        Keep safe my man !! ……. won’t be too long now before we are back up and running ..hoorayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy !! 🙂
        adios amigos
        gbster 🙂

        George B 22/04/20 5:28 PM Reply


        • Cheers for the clarification G. I love Hunter chases so would be very interested. I’ve been using some lockdown time to better understand the GeeGeez query tool, trying to develop some summer AW systems following my disastrous losses last summer 🙁 I can’t wait for racing to resume, feel so sorry for the smaller trainers and all low paid staff in racing, must be very worrying for them.

          Rapidly approaching the big 60 and work pension payout time 🙂 itching to hand it all over to Bet365 🙂 🙂 🙂

          Mark Curtis 23/04/20 11:51 AM Reply


          • MY SYSTEM PARAMETERS :
            ALL TRACKS EXCEPT CARTMEL & FAKENHAM
            NOT OVER DISTANCES OF : 2M/2M1.5F/2M2.0F/3M0.5F
            RUNNERS IN RACE 3 TO 24
            CLASSSES 2/3/4/5/6
            RACE TYPE : NOT = MAIDEN HUNTER CHASES/NOVICE HUNTER CHASES
            AGE RESTRICTRICTIONS OF RACE : ONLY = 4YO+/5YO+/6YO+
            ONLY MONTHS OF YEAR : JAN/FEB/MAR/APR/MAY/JUN/NOV/DEC
            COLOUR OF HORSE : NOT BROWN OR BAY/BROWN ( I KID YOU NOT 🙂 )
            AND ONLY THESE TRAINERS :
            Bailey, Mrs Caroline Bandey, R J Bolger, E Brookshaw, Miss H Christie, D M
            Crow, Mrs Sheila Dreaper, J T R Elliott, Gordon Hutsby, F A Kelleher, Gerard
            Landy, Justin McKeever, Graham John McLoughlin, D A McNiff, Mark Michael Nicholls, P F
            OBrien, David M OBrien, Fergal Oliver, Henry OSullivan, Eugene M Pauling, Ben
            Queally, Declan Rowley, Phillip Sherwood, O Vaughan, Tim Walsh, T M

            WELCOME TO MY WORLD 🙂
            ALL THE BEST EVERYONE ..ESPECIALLY YOU MC !!
            Retirement payout beckons for you then my man .. fully deserved no doubt !!!
            laters taterz
            gbster ..back to the HRB grind ! 🙂

            George B 23/04/20 12:39 PM Reply


            • p.s. only non handicap hunter chases for the above ramblings 🙂

              George B 23/04/20 12:40 PM Reply


              • Thanks GBster, stay well!

                Mark Curtis 23/04/20 4:29 PM Reply


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