Members Daily Post: 07/05/19 (complete)

Wetherby ‘through the card’ – Section 1 (complete), Nick’s Tips, TTP Flat 2019 / Chester Trainer Pointers

1.All Qualifiers Against TTP Stats Packs

2.My Tips (Daily Tips/Big Race Tips)

3.Nick’s Tips

4.Micro System Test Zone

5.Any general messages/updates etc


1.All Qualifiers Against TTP Stats Packs



2.30 –

Green Zone   (all Hc’s) H3 I3 10/1 S2 S5

Wild Sam   (HcH) 12/1 S2

Left Back   (HcH deb) 28/1 

3.00 –

Sophie Olivia   (all Hc’s) H3 I3 4/1 

Graystown   (HcH, micro TJC) H1 I1 7/2 UP

3.35 –

Court Dreaming   (m dist)  w2 H1 I3 7/4  3rd 

Talkofgold   (all Hc’s) H3 I3 13/2 



2.40 – Vexillum – (all Hc’s)  ES+ 6/1 S3A UP

3.45 – Doing Fine   (all Hc’s)  ES+ H3 I1 4/1 S3A# 2nd 













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2.My Tips (Daily Tips/Big Race Tips)


Daily Tips

3.45 – none today… It would appear Doing Fine is just a bit too obvious here having opened up at 8s/9s last night, no doubt tipped all over, and now a general 4s/7/2 shot, which feels about right, esp for a long distance chase and given his age/weight. He is covered in S3A# at least, and I get the feeling he may just destroy this lot. It’s the easiest chase he’s run in since dotting up at Chelt in a C3 off 129, over 3m4f, and it’s just a case of whether he runs his race. He went ok for a time in the Scottish National on his first start after a wind op. This could just be his level now. Anyway, his chance is obvious enough. There wasn’t really anything in here at the odds I wanted to side with, and I do need to stop trying to find bets in these races for the sake of it.



3.Nick’s Tips

(2018: +532.33 ; 2019: End April +11.16) 

3.55 Weth – Vive La Difference – 1 point EW – 12/1 (gen 1/5 4p gen) 4th, +1.4

That’s all for today, as of 08.00 … PLEASE if you bet on the exchanges, wait until there’s some liquidity in the market… i’m convinced it may be such activity which affects the early prices of some of these when posted?? 🙂 That could be nonsense mind. 



4.Micro System Test Zone

Irish Raiders

3.35 A – Megabucks

Jumps Fact Sheet 2018/19


3.00 A- Dr Robin

Henry Brooke (25/1<)

5.05 A – Wahwei Spirit


Handicap Hurdle Starting Points (16/1<)

3.35 A – Court Dreaming



5.Any general messages/updates etc



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Wetherby ‘through the card’

1.50 – Spice of Life – EW 7/1 UP

Sea the stars filly, yard in form, don’t trek up here for nothing and trainer will want wins on the board soon with this one. Second run back after a break, back on turf, i’d like to think she’ll run her race and that should be good enough to place at worst against this lot. Market always the best guide in these races so dangers are obvious. Stone Mason seems short given Charlton is 0/29 in last 30 days. 

2.20 – to the bar! 

A pint of Guinness appears to have a strong chance in this.  On all known form the fav should hack up here, the second in doesn’t seem value, if you must, throw some change at some biggies but a race to sit out imo. 

2.50-  Be More  (Assembled for fun if that’s too short) 2nd

Any 3 YO that is fancied trained by Balding is to be strongly noted. He’s his strongest bunch of 3YO for some time, if not ever, if you believe what he says, which I will! Many of them in the King Power colours. So, based on work at home, he should know what he has with most of them, who they’ve been beating/travelling well against on the gallops etc. This one may need further but doesn’t look the strongest of races, Johnny G has a fancied one also but isn’t being supported as yet. Following the money in these races isn’t a bad tactic. She has the best form in this, her maiden working out very well, not beaten far by a recent listed winner who hacked up at Newmarket. If she’s got a good season ahead, she should be winning this. As she will get further I expect OM to be positive enough. 

I’d probably play him or leave the race. Palmer has an interesting one but yard are quiet ish, and he’s unraced so plenty of guesswork there. 

3.20 – Turanga Leela 14/1 2nd 16/1 / Landing Night 10/1 3rd 15/2

Turanga… the only habitual front runner on paper in this… she is drawn wide and the 5f here is just off the bend and you don’t have long to get a position. She needs to be fast away, which she usually is… she was running a good race LTO and may have needed it. She was badly hampered and the jockey appeared to just let her coast home after that. The run isn’t as bad as it appears on paper having watched it back. She should be leading this lot to the 4 pole, we shall see what happens after that. 

Landing Night… can be held up so may need some luck but the jockey barely moved on him 3 days back.. he was last off the bridle/jockey wasn’t moving when everyone else was scrubbing along, but these sprints are a game of fine margins…sadly for his jockey the horse hung to his left a tad, and he had a wall of horses in front of him, by the time he straightened him up, and found  gap, the race was effectively over, he just coasted home. Maybe nothing to it but he drops in class here and PJ is back on. The run two starts back was decent and the horse has won off 75 on turf so is looking well handicapped again. menzies is 4/15,5p all runners here in last year. An awkward draw but he’ll be dropped in anyway, fan out as they enter the straight, and then everything crossed, as he nabs the one above in the dying strides for a glorious 1-2!! He’s also clear top rated on Geegeez Speed ratings… which over 5f/5.5 is a simple system in itself which I think ticks along ok, low enough SR maybe but lands on some very tasty prices. It did well last year anyway. 


3.55 – Vive Le Difference (Nick’s Tip) 12/1 4th 11/1

As is often the case during the week Nick didn’t have time for a write up/notes etc, given this isn’t a full time job for him! Slacker. 🙂 And I don’t know his reasoning by i’ll try and cobble something together, knowing how he thinks (some of the time!) 

The horse most likely needed the run LTO as he’s never won on debut before, and arguably the ‘wrong’ jockey was on, given Allan has been on for both his wins. He was keen there but travelled ok for 6f or so, before weakening. He’s probably the most versatile ground wise in this, and doesn’t mind Good/faster, nor softer if any rain does arrive. We probably need another season to judge but simply based on last year, he could well be a first half of the season horse. Or he was simply handicapped up to the hilt from Sept 18 onwards, up to OR 83. He’s now down to 76, which is the last mark he won off – and he did dot up there at Hamilton, in what was a golden spell of form. 

The horse also drops in class, his first run in a C5 since his first win in May 18. Plenty of his form has been working out well, including his 5th at Doncaster in Nov… the front three there were rated 84/90/90 and the trip was too short. He is still open to plenty of improvement as a 5YO and could have developed again over the winter. This is only the 17th run of his life, and looking for those improving 4 year olds / 5 year olds (esp in a 4yo+ race) is often the way to go imo. 

The top two look worth taking on… they are both unexposed, so no shock, but Balding’s hasn’t won a race yet, and Carroll’s has to prove his stamina – he may improve for the trip, but at 7/2 the pair I think you have to take them on with that profile, esp EW with 4 places generally. The rest of this field looks a mediocre bunch. 

The draw is a niggle – he’ll have to start well and try and get an ok position, but he can be patiently ridden, and those coming from nearer the back do well over this CD. Or they may be more aggressive, but given how keen he was LTO i doubt they’d want to rush him out the stalls and light him up without cover. 

He looks solid here, if running his race he won’t be far away at all. 


4.25 – Evie Speed EW  10/1 UP

I’ve kept this simple… I homed in on the horse who’s trainer is in the best form… well with Geegeez 14/30 jumping out at me… Jedd is 3/14,5p in last 14 days, trainer/jockey are 5/10,6p in the last 30. It’s a 3 YO handicap – I mean looking at form and trying to guess who’s improved most over the winter etc is a bit pointless in my view, at this stage of the season. Hard to know who’s trained on etc. Anyway this one is open to improvement and ran well first time up last year. The yard can ready them and having raced in Class 2s last year, this is the easiest handicap she’s run in. IF she’s fit, which i’ll assume she is given the yard can ready them, she should be bang there in this C4. 


4.55 – time for another drink!

hmmm… maybe time for a whisky! 


5.25 – Apache Blaze – EW 13/2  2nd 7/2 

This one is down into a class 6 for the first time since his only career win, at Notts over 10f. He ran well two starts back at Donny in a big field C5, under this pilot, and a repeat of that will put him bang there in this line up, to my eyes anyway. They do discard the CP and we shall see what affect that has but LTO was his first run at Lingfield and given his form on galloping/flat tracks, I can overlook that, with it’s sweeping downhill bend etc, maybe he just didn’t handle it, or the surface. Anyway, his mark is no problem and there should be more to come from him on turf this season. I thought he looked solid. EW, as the fav does have a solid chance also down in class, albeit his last race hasn’t worked out well. Happy to take him on but with EW cover. 






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  1. Hi guys, I wonder if anyone can help me. I was wondering if anyone had any stats on how Kevin Prendergast performed with FTO 3 year olds, in terms of strike rate, p/l etc etc. I haven’t access to any of the query tools I would normally use at the moment.


    1. Turf: 44/372 11.83% -30.57 SP
      AW: 10/71 14.08% -14.58 SP

      From HRB. If you want any specific years/tracks/race type let me know.


      1. Thanks Mike, I’d be particularly interested in Gowran Park generally and then specifically over a mile if possible. I do wonder if there’s any distinction between fillies and colts/geldings.

        Many thanks,

        1. Gowran Park is 3/24 12.5% -0.75 (most profitable is Limerick 6/26 23.08% +14.25)

          1m generally is 15/95 15.79% +25.6

          1m at Gowran Park is 0/4 -4 (The 1m profits come from Curragh, Limerick, Listowel, Naas & Navan)

          The best angle from his 3YO seasonal debuts would appear to be those running in class 3/4/5 handicaps over 7f-1m which gives 7/26 26.92% +55.

          1. Submitted last post before I’d finished. The rider to the class 3/4/5 handicaps 7f/1m would be there has only been 2 winners since 2010 although those 2 winners show a profit of 11 pts. We’re getting into the realms of very small samples.

        2. Mike and I must be looking at a different Kevin Prendergast! There are a few Prendergasts in HRB, but the KP, who had a runner in 2000 G come 4th….
          well he’s 6/103, 29p, -70 with 1st time out 3 year olds in his career (well since 2003 in HRB)
          the sexes are split, 3 wins each, similar stats pool.
          0/5,2p Gowran.
          0/5,2p with all since start 2018, had 2 runners this year so far, 1 has placed , 3rd 25/1 beaten 4L.

          1. Oh Mike, you’ve looked at seasonal debut?? I’ve looked at those having their first career start. That would explain the difference I suspect.

          2. Yes Josh, I was presuming Lee meant seasonal debut not career debut but I may be wrong 🙂

          3. Ah guys thanks for your work, I was indeed thinking about first career start as opposed to first seasonal start, but thanks very much for your data. I’ve just got onto HRB having used geegeez in the past and I’m impressed so far. Very easy to customise queries in the data

    1. As above Martin, you even get write ups you lucky sod, so, they’re all buggered!! enjoy.
      No doubt some other tips may be flying about, i’d check out Tims in the tipping comp to see if he finds any handicappers at Wetherby, given looks like he’s hitting some fine form. Have fun

  2. today’s selections.
    2-30. Green Zone 10-1 4 places
    3-45. Mercers Court 18-1 or 12-1 4 places
    6-20. Mr Mafia 10-1
    6-50. Bermeo 14-1 b365 4 places

  3. early Wetherby thoughts.
    1-50. Stormin Norman 20-1 might be worth an ew punt , fit from bumpers
    next 2 no idea
    3-20.Manshood 8-1
    3-55. Showboating 12-1
    4-25. Airwaves if price goes out i think 6-1 is a bit short
    4-55. can’t back an odds on fav so maybe a nibble on Ydra 6-1
    5-25. Thorntoun Care 8-1 looks interesting and Seaborough 12-1 if i forget last run and go on penultimate start.

    1. emmm .. manshood also flagged up on my system martin .. but i am struggling to understand why paul mulrennan is not onboard ?? ( i know oison murphy is top class) but paul mulrennan is normally stable number 1 isn’t he ?? and has won on this horse .. i don’t think the weight is a problem ?? .. frustrating would have been a maximum bet except for this conundrum ? ( a full £ 2.00 win i’ll have you know )
      is it another day ??? but why put on oisin murphy if just for a run out ? maybe they have decided it just needs a fresh jockey onboard ???
      just a thought 🙂

      1. Mulrennan hasn’t ridden that horse since 2017?? He isn’t first choice as far as I am aware, neither with that trainer or that owner (you’re not thinking of Dodds??) – who does like to use Murphy increasingly it seems, well trainer jockey 0/11,4p in the last year.
        In fact of Midgley’s last 30 runners, Mulrennan has only been on 3 of them.
        Murphy is chasing winners don’t forget, he wants that jockeys title, or to try for it, albeit not sure started counting yet, but in any case, I expect his net to be widened and his agent will be trying to get him on anything he can I think, esp in handicaps when he doesn’t have rides for his usual suspects etc. Prob not a bad jockey to follow as a ‘way in’ this season.

        1. bloomin heck .. and i have hrb to fall back on as well …. without looking i would of sworn Paul Mulrennan was the the me midgley “go to” jockey ??? hey hum .. still learning .. must be my age 🙁 ….. think the horse is well handicapped here today though .. apparently he needed his last race more than the stable expected ?? (naughton) now off OR73 … A “Place” minimum mark now …… looks good to me 😉
          thanks for your pointers on here Josh it’s been great and i have learnt lots … appreciated ….. i will take away lots from this site that will serve me well in the future 🙂
          gb 🙂

          1. Morning G, that sounded like a valedictory sentiment, have you decided to leave us? Gonna be attacking Wolverhampton later if you are playing?

          2. halo mr mc of the finest calibre ………..
            yes my friend ….. last day at school i think ( i simply can’t afford to carry on copy n pasting every day …just takes toooooo lonnnngggg !!! ………… will be off to my office in Normandy soon …shall soon be visiting deauville more than lingfield park …. hay-ho !! on-y-va my friend ………… thanks for keeping me here for as long you have … much appreciuated and would not have been fun without you 🙁 ………… but hey no tears i shall indeed play in the sand sur soir !! .. my usual tight list to follow 🙂
            all the best gb 🙂
            p.s have you received my S.B.C. resignation letter yet ? …. it has to be stamped and approved by 3 members ! …………. wmsl 🙂

          3. I’m very sorry to hear that Gmeister. Indeed, you have more than made my time on here so far. Absolutely no pressure or obligation, and am totally ok with a “no thanks”, but happy to swap sand tips in the future on email or other messenger means if you want? Otherwise, back later with thoughts for our last night on the sand under the RTP banner 🙂

          4. S.B.C. ALLL WEATHER DAILY BULLETIN for all perusals and usual disecting
            mr mc how u dooin !
            only taken me an HOUR AN HALF to crop and paste this little lot … lol 🙂
            6.00 Wolverhampton 3 Jupiter = tif/jif
            6.00 Wolverhampton 8 Master Poet = tif
            6.00 Wolverhampton 2 Ravenhoe (IRE) = tif
            6.30 Wolverhampton 1 Ballard Down (IRE) = claimer system / tif
            6.30 Wolverhampton 8 Brother In Arms (IRE) = jif
            6.30 Wolverhampton 5 The Establishment = tif
            6.30 Wolverhampton 4 The Lamplighter (FR) = jif
            6.30 Wolverhampton 2 Unforgiving Minute = system “move”
            7.00 Wolverhampton 4 Big Time Maybe (IRE) = tif
            7.00 Wolverhampton 1 Katheefa (USA) = tif / jif ( may prefer fibresand ?)
            7.30 Wolverhampton 3 Badenscoth = jif
            7.30 Wolverhampton 1 The Throstles = jif
            8.00 Wolverhampton 6 Chance Of Glory (FR) = tif/jif (May especially)
            8.00 Wolverhampton 5 Precision Prince (IRE) = jif
            8.00 Wolverhampton 8 Robeam (IRE) = tif / trainer/horse system
            8.00 Wolverhampton 7 Spiritual Boy (IRE) = tif
            8.00 Wolverhampton 1 Dark Glory (IRE) = f.t. cheek pieces ??
            8.30 Wolverhampton 13 Nonchalance = trainer/sire system
            8.30 Wolverhampton 9 Arcadienne = jif
            8.30 Wolverhampton 3 Harry The Norseman = jif
            8.30 Wolverhampton 1 Le Musee (FR) = jif
            8.30 Wolverhampton 5 Starczewski (USA) = jif
            8.30 Wolverhampton Tempus = system/class move
            That’s all folks 🙂
            laterz my friend 🙂

          5. Final SBC update before closing down – Wolverhampton

            18.00 – nothing grabs me here.

            18.30 – Unforgiving Minute looks a solid fav, like Ballard Down as a saver.

            19.00 – this is a tight contest. A Sure Welcome and Cappananty Con look sure to go well with slight preference for the latter in view of his 3/6 course wins. However, I do like Big Time Maybe, maybe EW or in forecast with CC? I fear Katheefa does not seem to like the track (0/6 runs) nor the trip. But there’s always a first time!

            19.30 – totally agree with Badenscoth and The Throstles. Just for fun, Acker Bilk to place (wtf)

            20.00 – Not a race to get heavily involved with but like Dark Glory, Robeam and Precision Prince EW.

            20.30 – very tricky. Bardo Contiguo’s T/J stats are 31% win/73% place over last 12 months so am going a small EW.

            Got to go now as the emotion of the last Silly Boys Sand Night is getting the better of me. A dark room, a bottle of Sanatogen and a wet towel around the head should sort it 🙂

            Have fun tonight VP G, thanks for everything and all the best for the future, you are da man!!

          6. omg .. who am i going to get to check my lists now .. lol 🙁 be back later to play in the sand 🙂

          7. thanks mc the bets are on .. 7.00W Big Time Maybe …. beckons ??????? 😉 put the SBC slush fund on e/w ??? I am sure our treasurer chubnuts wont mind ????
            🙂 talk later wingman mc 🙂
            gl/gb 🙂

          8. Yes, if only we had a petty cash fund! Good luck tonite, catch you laterz

          9. Yayy got the f/c on the 7.00 thanks to our joint brain ache ;0 well done mc 😉

          10. GB,

            If you are indeed signing off then I would like to thank you for your many (very many!!) contributions and your banter with all but especially MC has been a joy to read. Beneath the jokey exterior seems to lie a very keen racing brain so thank you for your insight. Hopefully you can occasionally pop up on the free page with some thoughts and hopefully Mark C will carry on the SBC. Bon voyage and good luck in the future.



          11. Thks appreciated …. thanks for putting up with me ….keep having fun on here ;0

      2. My friend Andy Taylor, who owns the gelding, told me: ” He blew for ten minutes last time, so keep the faith.
        ” You could say he’d definitely be winning if the stable was in better form”.

    2. backed the 1,2,3 in the 3-20 DIDN’T do the tricast what a plonker, nice day out though only 1 winner but 4 places so came home with my wad intact 🙂

  4. Josh,

    Your point re. the exchange betting; I have been a member with a respected service for some years and it was exactly this behaviour that became a source of real trouble for his service. Prices were gone in minutes after posting bets even at 8:30am. The bookies undoubtedly have exchange tracking software to prevent arbers doing their thing so the few quid it takes to mop up the top price in there surely impacts industry prices. His view is that overnight markets and the advent of exchanges are the two single worse things to happen to the betting industry from a punters perspective. Overnight markets mean that the bookies can get the markets corrected for very little liability without having to employ a team of proper traders and the exchanges mean you have very little edge across the entire range of bookies available. They simply follow the market and any standout prices are gone in seconds.

    1. yep I think you’re right, doesn’t take much to move a BF exch price at all, esp the bigger odds, when no liquidity. And yep most bookies must have software that simply tracks exchange prices for that purpose, to prevent the arbers/traders etc. Any bookie with a bigger price than is on exchange, when no liquidity in markets, is asking for trouble I think. No perfect solution but the exchanges/overnight are not going anywhere, but then plenty of pros back later in the day and like the info from market, and make value judgements at that time of day.
      But yep, anyone launching into the exchange early on, even with setting a price/waiting to be matched I suspect, is ruining the price/longevity of that price, for everyone else.

    2. The issue is that there is very little liquidity on the exchanges now until 10/15 mins before the off in all but the big races/meetings. Even then most of the liquidity is traders not punters.

      The bookies can actually manipulate the exchanges for coppers. It will cost them less than £50 early in the day to wipe out the top 3 prices on the exchanges and have the lemmings rushing to ‘back the steamer’.

      My ‘serious’ punting stopped over 20 years ago. The bookies have all bases covered. The other major issue for me was advances in computerisation/internet. I put in the hard work to find my edges. Hours with the form books every night which few people were prepared to do. Now they can get all that with 2 clicks of a mouse button on Proform 🙂 It’s much harder to find an edge these days with the information available to all and the bookies, traders & syndicates dominating the markets.

      I really don’t see it getting much better, it’s a dying market with the younger generation far more in to Sports betting/trading than horses. Cricket & Football trading are my serious interests now.

      The Voice of Doom 🙂

      1. Mike
        not sure about the decline in horse betting for the other week Ladbrokes wanted a stop to advertising during live sports but horse racing not to be included.

        1. Interesting Colin.

          Last figures I saw suggested that 40% of the UK ‘gambling’ market was now online. Of that 40%, 60% was casino/slots/bingo/poker and 40% sports betting. So 16% of the online market is sports betting and of that 16%, 54% of it was football betting alone.

          I heard an interview with Simon Claire some time ago where he suggested that Football was by and far the biggest market with Tennis 2nd and horse racing 3rd.

          The other way of looking at it I suppose is that 27% of UK gambling is still conducted on the high street with betting shops taking the lions share of that. I’ve no idea of the breakdown of that between FOBT, Horses, Greyhound, Sports etc so maybe racing is still the big revenue raiser in the shops?

          It would be interesting to see the exchange numbers with the traders stripped out, turnover on Betfair is huge but how much of that is generated by the ‘tick’ traders and scalpers backing and laying. My guess is that the overall punter/trader liabilities would be a minute percentage of the turnover.

          Matched betting grew enormously over the last decade and as the bookies started to clamp down on that many of them seem to be switching to trading. It seems to me now that the market is completely dominated by traders not punters, with the big ‘syndicates’ representing a massive chunk of the trading market.

    W 3.20 – Show Palace on 5th run
    E 5.20 – Bossiney Bay on 4th run
    E 6.20 – Bernie Boru on 3rd run
    F 3.45 – Amiral Collognes on 4th run
    F4.45 – Mr Mix on 5th run

    3.20 Amazing Grazing BOG 5/1
    3.20 Musharrif BOG 7/1
    3.55 Zodiakos BOG 6/1
    6.00 Clement BOG 5/1
    6.00 Perceived BOG 8/1
    3.45 Fakenham Achill Road Boy BOG 6/1
    3.00 Ayr Graystown BOG 10/3
    3.55 Wetherby Zodiakos BOG 6/1
    6.20 Exeter Max Forte BOG 10/3

  7. Not big on summer jumps and today’s flat meetings are fairly woeful with no selections at all this morning. Might try a summer jumps version for the handicaps but that won’t be till next year as I’ve not even started on the winter jumps one yet. Just completed the AW version which is looking better than the turf one performance wise, but with 4 proform databases on two machines I need to think about consolidating it all down to two, as it’s just not practical the way it’s working at the moment.

    So database management duties for me today I’m thinking.

    1. Yep me too Tim …… keep up the brilliant work ! shame we got off on the wrong foot all those motnhs ago … just the 265 micro angles to titivate 😉
      gl/gb 🙂

      1. Not sure how HRB works but with Proform it stores the database on your PC. It only runs in Windows or Mac which for me means I have to run it as a guest OS in virtualbox. The good thing is that you don’t need all the virus and security crap MS are always trying to flog you cos it never comes into contact with the outside world. You can also bar Microsoft from accessing your PC because the host OS, which is Linux, always holds the keys to the kingdom.

        The one big advantage is that you can auto clone as many copies of windows 7 with Proform database already loaded as you need, but the down side of course is that you end up with everything all over the place. So is time for a clear out cos there’s an awful lot of stuff I’m not using now along with prototype versions of stuff that I am that have been replaced by later versions and it would be a lot handier if all the turf/AW were on the one virtual box with all the jumps on another.

  8. 1.50 Wetherby…Gold Stick to win but no price…each way options are Australis and Kenica…tricky race altogether….Spice Of Life should be a solid each way chance and may give the fav the most to do having run 36.02 mph for 10f at Lingfield …my universal average speed for that distance is 36.153 mph so borderline average for that run and at 7/1 there is eachway value there for sure…the other selections are all based on pedigrees so will be interesting to see how they run. Gd lck…ps just seen that George B is departing for pastures new…bon chance will be poorer without you..

    1. i hope you are not sent for “stoning” after that last sentence …… lol …… thanks Silver you are a breath of fresh air as well and a lot lot more knowlegeable than me .. you will get on fine here in the upper echelons of RTP … long may it continue 😉
      gb 🙂

      1. Haven’t been “stoned” since the 60’s but can’t remember!!!! …kind words..all the best.

  9. Not a tip at all but the owner of Tommy the Rascal and Artur’s Reuben thinks they should outrun their odds. Arthur’s Reuben up in distance which should help so I’ve had a couple of quid win and place.

  10. 2.20. Boston George (given that GB is saying adieu would be nice to go out on a winner for a namesake and is a good coincidence bet if you are into that sort of thing!) as the ew against the fav….Followme Followyou . Dream of Honour and Ripon Spa at bigger prices based on pedigrees….not sure about Destination as the time in the C4 at Donc is suspect to my eyes..either the going description is not accurate or the time of the race was slow and form not that good??? so difficult to evaluate that run. Boston George ran at a comparable speed with Franz Kafka over the same distance of 7f allowing for course and going adjustments 36.96 and 36.64 mph respectively so closely matched and Boston George is at a better e/w price and has a better pedigree so that will be my choice…all the best with whatever you are backing.

    1. HA HA .. I beat the favourite but not the fianl Destination 🙂 .. thanks for e/w advice 😉
      gl/gb 🙂

      1. Certainly gave them all a run for their money eh!!! Just like yourself, glad you got something back on the race.

  11. George…. Sad to hear you’re leaving too, missed that post when I posted earlier. We did get off to a rocky start but all’s well that ends well. 🙂 Enjoy yourself in France…… Je suis le fantome de la maison et j’ai la plume de ma tante. 😉

    1. tres canard rodney !! ..tres canard innit !! still my “Manshood” has paid for the row boat acrosss today anyhow … even though i was shocked to see mr mulrennan not doing the steering ( i think it will be aout very soon to exploit this current rating ??? 🙂
      Yep thanks Tim …Indeed your knowledge like so many others has been a real help to me to finalise the way forward .. indeed all the best 🙂
      gb 😉

  12. Exeter 7.50 Emperor Renard – info passed on to me that contacts of the owners are looking to recoup money previously lost on this horse. Small bet for me just for interest, not a fan of shorties or 3 horse races tbh

  13. Well G, we ended the SBC with a cracking forecast, and a nice couple of places. Thanks again for the benefit of your system longlists, invaluable. Bon Chance in la belle France Mon ami, will miss what you brought to this site. I really will be talking to myself if I post on here again 🙂

    An revoirG, it was a blast.

    All the very best from the Rebel MC.

  14. Ok the time is nigh….. just about in front tonight after your saver suggestion in the last mc .. ; ) thanks as always. ..its been a blast hope to catch up with you at some point soon mr mc .
    And thanks Josh for organising such a great site where like minded individuals can con flab without fear of retribution .

    Hope you all had fun like me 😉

    Au revoir toute ke monde
    Monsieur le gb
    And then there was silence

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