Members Daily Post 19/11/17 (complete)

Section 1, Chelt Notes, + Notes

1.All Qualifiers Against Stats Pack/Ratings Pointers

2.Any ‘Notes’ (my subjective thoughts/’tips’)

3.Micro System Test Zone

4.Any general messages/updates etc


1.All Qualifiers Against Stats Pack/Ratings Pointers



Cresswell Breeze (all hncps,hncp chase,m2) ES+ H3 I3 9/1 S3A , WON 9/1>7/1 

Shelford (hncp chase) 14,30 H1 9/2 UP

2.40 –

Remiluc (m1) H1 I1 9/2 3rd 

Love Destination (m1 + m1) H3 I3 G3 16/1 S1, S2, S4, S5 UP

3.15 –

Soulsaver (all hncps +m2) ES+ H3 I1 G3   10/3  S3A S4  WON 4/1 

Be Daring (m1) 5/1 UP



1.15 –

Merose Boy (all hncps, m2,m2) 14,30 5/2 WON 3/1 

Buckle Street (all hncps) H3 33/1 UP

Cottersrock (all hncps) 25/1 S2  UP 

Lip Service (m1) 14,30 8/1 4th 10/1 


Misterton (all hncps) I3 10/1 S2 S5 2nd 10/1 (ahh!)

Old Guard (m1) 30 G3 20/1 S1 S2 3rd 8/1

Amour De Nuit (m1) 30 G1 




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2.Any ‘Notes’ (my subjective thoughts/’tips’)

Test/trial  : ‘NOTES’  (01/09/17-) (27/138, +122.5) (1 point win bets)


1.15 Chelt – Lip Service –

I’ve ‘declared’ yesterday’s winner at 3/1 (+1 point on day) but with any luck you got a bigger price. 9/2 wasn’t around for long after I posted and I don’t like ‘tipsters’ declaring at prices the majority would have never got. An ok day and all three ran well enough, to a point. On we go…

Lip Service... well he is a decent enough price and he has that unexposed profile. This is his first handicap hurdle run I think and first run for the new yard. In the last two years FOB is 10/43,18p, +43 with new horses to the yard running first time up for him. Many a horse seems to improve for coming into his care. He has a decent young jockey booked who is on the crest of a wave at the moment. He steps up in trip from recent runs. Fitness is taken on trust but he looked worth a nibble at these odds. The ground is also a bit of an unknown. The market suggests they are running against an aeroplane from the Fry yard- he clearly could have a tonne in hand. But you have to take those types on at that price, in races like this. Well, I always will. If this one doesn’t win, maybe Cottersrock can cause a surprise for S2.


That’s the lot for today. GL with any bets.


3.Micro System Test Zone

Irish Angles

12.45 Cork – Boy Capel (25/1<)


4.Any general messages/updates etc

Cheltenham Day 3

hmmm…well the micros found Splash of Ginge in the big one, can’t say my pin was anywhere near him and they always look more obvious after they have won! I think he was 40s or so in the morning. Gulp. Clearly I should have just focused on that list of qualifiers!  But, at least they worked and they were due a biggie going in. The handicap hurdle trends ‘shortlist’ of 7 (i tried to refine it but no further stats to do so) included the 25/1 winner! (37.00 BFSP) so, some encouragement there moving through the rest of the season with that approach. Ideally i’d like shortlists of 4 max, but that’s how it goes sometimes. I know some of you just back all shortlist qualifiers so with any luck at least one of you had a go! (please do say if you did)

On to today…


(as with yesterday 14/1< best, ‘some biggies have gone close’, and now we have a big winner, so, prob best use as a guide only!)

1.15 –

Melrose Boy (m2) WON 

Potters Story (m2)


Elgin (m1 +  m2) WON 

Mohaayed (m1 + m2)

London Prize (m1)

Misterton (m1) 2nd 

Nietzsche (m1)

Old Guard (m1) 3rd 

Project Bluebook (m1)

William H Bonney (m1)


Trainer Notes

1.15 – Melrose Boy WON 

2.25 – Fox Norton WON 

3.00- Old Guard 3rd / Misterton 2nd

3.30 – Slate House WON   / Dame De Compaigne UP

4.00- Crooks Peak WON / Sizing Cusimano UP


Greatwood Hurdle Stats/Trends/Shortlist

  • 0-2 runs last 90 days
  • 0-5 career wins
  • 0-1 handicap wins

(the only three 10/10 stats,using those that I look at) (10/10 were sent off 12/1 or shorter SP, 18/20 also 12/1 or shorter SP, as a guide)

Shortlist : Elgin WON 16/1>10/1/ Jenkins / Mohaayed / William H Boney / Ivanovich Gorbatov 




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19 responses

  1. very short of time so no explanation just my fun selections for today.
    Cheltenham day 3.
    1-15. Maguires Glen 25-1 1pt ew
    1-50. no bet
    2-25 Cloudy Dream 3-1 1pt win
    3-00. Mohaayed 8-1, The New One 14-1 both 1pt ew
    3-30.Summerville Boy 25-1 1pt win
    4-00. Ballygomartin 7-1 1pt ew
    1-30. Lithic 11-2 2pt win
    2-05 Cyclop 7-1, Azures Fly 12-1 both 1pt ew
    2-40 Ravens Tower 9-2 2pt win

  2. Today I like Elgin Cheltenham Sunday 15:00 1pt e/w (make sure you get 5+ places but be wary Sky terms only apply for 14+ runners) and Cresswell Breeze Fontwell 14:05 1pt e/w

    Have chucked £5ew on Itsafreebee in the 14:40 at Fontwell who has had a nightmare 12 months however he was the Neptune runner up 18 months ago and is running in a class 3 handicap off a mark of 130 and there must be a reason why Skelton is persevering with her.

      1. yep well done, nice for ES+ to get a decent priced one in also, been a while! She travelled very well through that, superb ride.

        1. Slightly feel sorry for the stats but that a cracking little 140/1 double there. Back to back winners of the Greatwood as well. Hope some of you guys followed.

          1. Didn’t follow the double sadly! Nice. But given the micros/race shortlist/your thoughts, i had a nibble, but would have preferred the second or third to have won!

          2. I had the front 5 with SP2A but would have been a big drop off (double worth best part of a grand) if the other 4 had won. Wayne did a sterling job in being on the best part of the track the whole way round there. That’s 3/4 of the last winners that had run in the same year’s Supreme now.

  3. Paddy goes to Fontwell today which suggests there isn’t a whole pile of confidence
    about the 2 bumper runners,however he wouldn’t be eligible to ride Lip Service in the 1.15,Richard Patrick has ridden 2-2 with stable,is a jockey heading to the top
    I am always reluctant to back anything on home soil,but given Jessica Harringtons record with hurdlers at Punchestown i will have a stab at Light That at 20/1 12.30,its a decent pot and she does run them to win

    1. I hear Paddy is off to FP to ride Fergal Mael Duin, who has been laid out for the 2.05. He went well in the race last year. The other rides he has look moderate, even for FP and some are short. Minella Web has not won for over two years and yet is short on the tissue. Go with FMD 2.05.

      In the 12.55 Jukebox Jive comes off the flat to have a go over hurdles. Thounder has had two ok wing and wears a tongue tie. Field of Fortune may be the ‘dirty each way’ here?

      In the 2.40 the Pipe 4YO Great Tempo has a low weight. Ravens Tower and Loves Destination are consistent but no world beaters.

  4. I guess the rain stopped at Cheltenham and the ground is drying? In the 1.15 Tempuran at 20/1 may have some each way value if he has some improvement in an open race? In the 3.00 Jenkins may sluice up or find one or two too good. I do not see him as value at present? Flying Tiger has a 5LB pull with London Prize and may be each way value circa 12/1? I hear Mohaayed is revved up as well in another competitive race.

    The novice races look tough but as with Apples Shakira yesterday the market may guide us?

    Good luck.

  5. Got quite a few fancies today myself. Faugheen back is a treat!

    Swamp fox without Faugheen– Vroum Vroum Mag being a NR sort of ruins this bet as you can’t get it as easy e/w…i think without is a nice bet here. He is tough as they come he hates be passed and there are question marks over Jezki bouncing and whether Campeador is of this level (he could well be by the way). Campeador is also capable of falling as we all know so for me this is a no-brainer- even if i looking for an underperformance or two…

    3.25 Best Behaviour is worth watching. A trainer who wouldnt be known for maiden winners but he was put into a big punchestown bumper and didnt finish far of the places…The form is good, and as much Stooshie finished ahead of him, stooshie had the benefit of experience….This horse could well end up a much longer term prospect so he’s worth watching…..hes around 16s i think so worth an e/w

    3.55 Speirling Ran in the same bumper as the above and was probably more eyecatching, hampered when making nice ground, i reckon he would’ve finished in the first 5 if not for being hampered. That in theory makes him have the best piece of form in this bumper. As much as Vision de Flos has been highly tried, i have a feeling hes slightly overrated. He gets weight here, but the negative he concedes a run to the favourite. I wasn’t overly taken by the favourite at down royal, Rapid escape seemed a stayer all over, and whilst the ground will suit that type, i think he could have a couple of fair challengers here.
    Speirling has been backed to 4s, i havent backed him as yet, as to be honest hes shorter now that i’d want. When that outfit backs them it can be telling, but…maybe a drift nearer the off will make him a bet.

    12.45 Cork, i wont be betting but worth seeing what Articulum can do off a long lay off. He has some nice form and from a small yard, its possible he’ll be underestimated going forward.

    Lip Service qualifies for Josh which i am happy to see. A new in form yard could see him improve a fair bit. Travelled well in Ireland before finding a lot often, and a tongue tie is also interesting. I see the jockey is on fire over hurdles also, with 5 or 6 places he makes appeal the way he travels.

    1. Not the best not the worst.

      Faugheen is back and still a machine..Swamp Fox didn’t get 2nd..

      Best Behaviour placed, and looks one long term to watch, while not being anything special.

      Speirling not good enough for Rapid Escape, there was a slight drift on him near the off.

      Lip Service finished nicely on stable debut and will be one for the future alright.

      Articulum hosed up, my horses i have to watch for future races seem to be flying to early, as i didnt back him lol it was hard to know how fit but his form stood out like a sore thumb!

  6. My E/W Lucky 15.
    Chelt 1.15 Tarrona, lot’s in here with chances I just kept coming back to this one, should be ok in the ground/trip I will take my chance at 50/1.
    Font 2.05 Fergal Mael Duin I got a list from somewhere of horses to back First time out in Oct/Nov, he is on it.
    Font 2.40 Ravens Tower, Ben Pauling’s horses running well, good on the ratings has won 3/6 in November.
    Font 3.15 Sixtie’s Idol, I will be honest struggling for a fourth pick, this ran 3rd behind a Charlie Mann horse back in May at Kempton, Got a rating of 102 has done much since, today off 79 in a very weak race, take my chance at 22/1.

    Good Luck All

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